Talking Stick Golf Club - O'odham Course
About
The Talking Stick Golf Club features two golf courses designed by the architecture team of Bill Coore and Ben Crenshaw, who created distinct golf courses with enough choices to accommodate all levels of golfers. The golf club sits on the Salt River Pima-Maricopa Indian Community reservation, a spot that provides the serenity necessary to endure a testing day of golf.
"Talking Stick's O'odham (formerly known as North Course) course, with its broad, angular holes rewards thoughtful play through the rise of its many options according to one's level of skill. Its low-profile, slightly crowned greens and close-cropped approaches encourage running as well as aerial assaults." -- Bill Coore & Ben Crenshaw
The second hole is a par 5 that measures 552 yards from the Black tee and is one of two long holes, with the 17th being a par 5 that plays to 582 yards from the Black tees.
The 18th hole on the O'odham Course at the Talking Stick Golf Club is shorter, relatively speaking, a par 4 that measures 471 yards from the Black tees.
Tee | Par | Length | Rating | Slope |
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Black | 70 | 7133 yards | 72.6 | 124 |
Gold | 70 | 6510 yards | 69.9 | 119 |
Gold (W) | 70 | 6510 yards | 75.6 | 127 |
Gold/Jade | 70 | 5945 yards | 67.0 | 116 |
Gold/Jade (W) | 70 | 5945 yards | 72.6 | 123 |
Jade | 70 | 5532 yards | 65.2 | 111 |
Jade (W) | 70 | 5532 yards | 70.0 | 116 |
Hole | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | Out | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 18 | In | Total |
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Black M: 72.6/124 | 394 | 552 | 450 | 433 | 391 | 223 | 457 | 153 | 446 | 3499 | 437 | 261 | 392 | 391 | 445 | 461 | 194 | 582 | 471 | 3634 | 7133 |
Gold M: 69.9/119 W: 75.8/130 | 379 | 509 | 417 | 390 | 356 | 187 | 427 | 143 | 412 | 3220 | 390 | 217 | 358 | 356 | 410 | 425 | 161 | 534 | 439 | 3290 | 6510 |
Gold/Jade M: 67.0/116 W: 72.6/123 | 379 | 509 | 375 | 337 | 356 | 147 | 325 | 118 | 331 | 2877 | 390 | 182 | 358 | 356 | 357 | 389 | 161 | 484 | 391 | 3068 | 5945 |
Jade M: 65.2/111 W: 70.0/116 | 312 | 449 | 375 | 337 | 277 | 147 | 325 | 118 | 331 | 2671 | 353 | 182 | 245 | 316 | 357 | 389 | 144 | 484 | 391 | 2861 | 5532 |
Rust M: 61.4/105 W: 66.4/110 | 235 | 393 | 326 | 280 | 277 | 147 | 259 | 118 | 331 | 2366 | 275 | 121 | 245 | 271 | 280 | 277 | 144 | 372 | 326 | 2311 | 4677 |
Handicap | 15 | 13 | 1 | 3 | 11 | 5 | 9 | 17 | 7 | 12 | 6 | 2 | 16 | 8 | 14 | 18 | 4 | 10 | |||
Par | 4 | 5 | 4 | 4 | 4 | 3 | 4 | 3 | 4 | 35 | 4 | 3 | 4 | 4 | 4 | 4 | 3 | 5 | 4 | 35 | 70 |
Handicap (W) | 5 | 1 | 3 | 9 | 13 | 15 | 11 | 17 | 7 | 6 | 16 | 10 | 14 | 12 | 4 | 18 | 2 | 8 |
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Golf Advisor: Top Courses in Arizona (2022 #5)
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12th fairway looking back from the green Photo submitted by jamesklapp on 06/27/2023
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Photo submitted by u000003769992 on 07/05/2020
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Photo submitted by aAGc9DX2S3GKNDrnpp5E on 01/09/2020
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Photo submitted by aAGc9DX2S3GKNDrnpp5E on 01/09/2020
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Photo submitted by aAGc9DX2S3GKNDrnpp5E on 01/09/2020
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Photo submitted by aAGc9DX2S3GKNDrnpp5E on 01/09/2020
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Photo submitted by BrandonTuckerGA on 05/02/2016
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Photo submitted by BrandonTuckerGA on 05/02/2016
Talking Stick Resort Oodham
The course was in Excellent shape for the time of year. There were few people on the course so it went quite quickly, ie: 3 hours for 18 holes. The staff as always were courteous, friendly, and helpful. Went to the resort for the buffet and it was fabulous and well priced.
Pay attention to the course layout map for #12
Finally got here after years of hearing about it. Reservation went off without a hitch, staff was attentive, beverage cart was there, course was in good shape. Greens quick enough to keep your attention. Bunkers were pretty good. Thoroughly enjoyed the day. Thought I hit a perfect drive on 12 (at least for me) but I caught that little finger that reaches out to the right into the right side fairway and stuck it under the lip. Only play was sideways towards the OB, managed to save bogey. I'll be back
Not Fun
Slowest round of summer golf I have ever played in Arizona since I have lived here (1989). No ranger. Stacked 3 deep on tee boxes from hole 12 in. Greens are all cut at different lengths, very grainy. Not impressed. When I told personnel, they shruged it off and said "sorry". It took us 4 hours and 42 minutes. I only paid $20, but will not be going back. Disappointed.
Good value for money
Talking stick has a $20 deal on right now, which is great! The course is great and staff are friendly. The only issues was that we only saw the drinks person once and the carts don’t have GPS even though the booking says they do. Otherwise, solid course!
Nice layout but a near 5 hour round
Golf course itself is great although greens were a bit slow. The pace of play is horrible. It was not busy particularly just slow groups. Not sure why but there were no marshals on the course to keep things moving. There are no water hazards but plenty of sand.
Absolutely
1st timer. Excellent experience. Coming back for sure!! Course to me was in great shape. Coming back for sure.
Desert Dawg
Always a great course to play. Especially at summer rates.
Played with : a scratch, 2 Handi & 3 Handi. I';m a 18, should not have tried to keep up!! They we great guys even with me thrashing along.
Nice course
Great condition, pretty wide fairways, with lots of bunkers along the sides. No water to speak of, plenty of desert surrounding. Greens were in good shape, recently sanded, but still true, and challenging. Got a great deal at $21 at 10am. Got to about 107°, but still great. Lots of water on the course, so you can stay hydrated. Restaurant offers great service and good food. Staff was excellent. I'm going back ASAP!
Junior Tourney first Tee Times in AM?
I was excited to play the course today and in spite of 106 degrees, the price was right. Upon arriving an hour before my tee time, I was informed that the times were being delayed by 30 minutes to allow the juniors more time...ok, no problem..I am on vacation. Finally, l got off number one and after finally finishing that hole in 25 minutes, the waited for three groups to tee off on number two, I decided that a 7 hour course was not in the offing for me....
In the management, they did find a way to refund the green fee, but the frustration was then trying to find another course with an available time near by.
Course for all levels of players
Good wide fairways, large greens. Bunkers with sand. Challenging undulations on greens. Course in very good condition.
Slowwwww
Love these courses, staff, maintenance, bar, etc.
But they undeniably have a pace of play problem.
Yesterday was just the latest example.
Teed off about 2:40, 14 min late
Reached the 4th tee at 3:40
1 hour, 3 holes.
That’s a 6 hour pace.
I quit after 6 holes at 4:30
6 holes in 1 hour 50 min
We were literally hitting a shot every 10 minutes not counting putts
Never saw a marshall. Or beverage cart.
I’d like to think they know they’ve got a problem but if so, they clearly don’t care enough to actually DO anything. This has been going on for a while now
Fabulous value
The Talking Stick complex is one of my favorite golf facilities. My brother in law and I played the North and the course was in great shape. Best of all, the rate on GolfNow was $45, which is unbelievable for a course of the caliber of both courses. And the staff are very friendly and efficient.
Great day Great value
Have played Talking Stick dozens of times over the past five years and have never failed to have a great round. It gets pretty slow in the winter, but now that the snowbirds are gone, it’s back to a good track. A special shout out to the drink cart lady - she saw us five or six times over the round and since it was a hundred degrees today, she was a welcome sight. Two excellent courses and great service!
So so conditioning
Sorry to say the course conditions are a. 6/10 particularly fairway and cart paths. Electric carts are in mediocre shape making strange noise and a bit of lurching.. no big hurry back for me.
Municipal course conditions with municipal course pace of play. Brutal 5 hr round on Friday afternoon.